{"id":442,"date":"2006-02-27T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2006-02-27T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/71A827C3-6A02-4355-9C0A-EF2A24231DED"},"modified":"2012-07-17T10:34:29","modified_gmt":"2012-07-17T10:34:29","slug":"so-what-are-the-colors","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/?p=442","title":{"rendered":"So what are the colors?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The color research is beginning to pay off. From Carter Hendricks comes a\u00a0 xerox of a\u00a0 1990 article in an Italian magazine, which says:<em> \u201c from work by Elvira Ruocco &amp; others&#8230; who worked to transfer old Fiat, Lancia and Alfa paint color codes to current Lechler and other color codes.&#8221;<\/em> \u00a0So here are the 1990 Lechler codes for the Aurelias B20\u2019s from that article (my transcribing, but their exact words!). \u00a0There are some later corrections from Lechler in Italy from recent correspondence, indicated by (\u00a0 ). \u00a0One can assume the later numbers are more likely to be correct, but take care!<\/p>\n<p>B20 1, 2 series:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Argento Aureuil metall.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1325<\/li>\n<li>Celeste Ardenza metall.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1327<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Inglewood\u00a0 met.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 8001<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Marones\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 8021<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Albany metallizz.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1358<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Newmarket met.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1338<\/li>\n<li>Grigio York\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 33<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Tor di Valle\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1336<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Cascine\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1334<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Montebello\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 8042<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Vinovo\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1335<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Laurel Park\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 13 (1181)<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Belmontpark\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 57 (8083)<\/li>\n<li>Blu Scuro\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1195 \u00a0(Lechler uses same number called Grigio Scuro)<\/li>\n<li>Beige\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1077<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>For the B20 s. 3,4,5 (6 isn\u2019t listed separately):<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Celeste\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 8012<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Newmarket met.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1338<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Chiaro, V\/VI series\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1194<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Metal.,V\/VI series\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 104\u00a0\u00a0(Lechler calls this Grigio Milano Metal.)<\/li>\n<li>Blu Scuro\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 8015<\/li>\n<li>Blu\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1179<\/li>\n<li>Azzuro, V\/VI serie\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1173<\/li>\n<li>Amaranto\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 8027 (1176)<\/li>\n<li>Rosso La Plata\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1360<\/li>\n<li>Avorio\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1196<\/li>\n<li>Beige\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1077<\/li>\n<li>Verde\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 8013<\/li>\n<li>Nero\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 122<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>A few more thoughts:<\/p>\n<p>A Max Meyer colorwheel from the 1950\u2019s lists some of these paints, but with older (no longer valid) numbers. In that wheel, the \u201cLancia Blue\u201d is listed as\u00a0 MM\u00a0 # 1.272.7069, and is probably the same as the Blu above.<\/p>\n<p>And the\u00a0 Lancia beige is probably the same as Max Meyers\u2019 \u201cBeige Mirabello\u201d (old # 1.252.3918). Jean-Pierre Baumgartner sent me the following sample which he said had some 30+ years of age on it:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/beige-aurelia-b201.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p>For the B24, we have a color wheel (image from Steve Katzman) with the following paints:<\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 710px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2006\/02\/L5680036.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-1764\" title=\"L5680036\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2006\/02\/L5680036-1024x682.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2006\/02\/L5680036-1024x682.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2006\/02\/L5680036-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">color wheel with better color correction<\/p><\/div>\n<dl id=\"attachment_1763\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"width: 710px;\">\n<dt class=\"wp-caption-dt\"><\/dt>\n<dd class=\"wp-caption-dd\">B24 Spider color wheel<\/dd>\n<\/dl>\n<\/div>\n<p>The colors are\u00a0the older MM paint codes and names for which we do not have the Lechler equivalents, but here they are regardless:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Grigio Metall, &#8211; 16.249<\/li>\n<li>Rosso Capri- 10.593<\/li>\n<li>Verde Alassio &#8211; 13.665<\/li>\n<li>Celeste Portofino- 10.573<\/li>\n<li>Grigio Forte del Marmi- 10.702<\/li>\n<li>Avorio Riccione- 12.002<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>For other information on colors, such as\u00a0Flavia colors and\u00a0Fulvia colors (Lechler #\u2019s and Lancia #&#8217;s) can be found in either Viva Lancia&#8217;s online library, or in:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.lancisti.net\/forum\/content.php\">the Lancisti Community<\/a>, look in their library and search for colors. Paul Mayo has also done quite a bit of work on colors.<\/p>\n<p>For Ardea and Appia colors &#8211; a detailed list of Max Meyer paints can be found in the book by Puttini &amp; Fornai, published by Nada.<\/p>\n<p>A Max Meyer color wheel in England is shown below, but again numbers from MM are not translated to current paint codes. So its an interesting period piece, but of little direct help.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/shapeimage_276.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/IMG_0926.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The color research is beginning to pay off. From Carter Hendricks comes a\u00a0 xerox of a\u00a0 1990 article in an Italian magazine, which says: \u201c from work by Elvira Ruocco &amp; others&#8230; who worked to transfer old Fiat, Lancia and Alfa paint color codes to current Lechler and other color codes.&#8221; \u00a0So here are the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1541,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[5],"class_list":["post-442","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aurelia","tag-color"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/442","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=442"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/442\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1765,"href":"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/442\/revisions\/1765"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/1541"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=442"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=442"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.lanciainfo.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=442"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}